Silver-Bullet - Building the perfect homemade

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Postby WaterWolf on Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:51 pm

This is a topic that is dedicated to the design and constructions of a "Silver Bullet Homemade", essentially the perfect rifle beam weapon.
I want ideas from anybody and everybody who has a brain.

In the past, I have used Blender-3D to make computer generated designs of water-weapons, so I could really SEE what the homemade would look like even before I build it.
I could use it for this project as-well, constantly changing and posting the design as its thought out.

So, I think the first thing we need to do is decide on what to aim for.

Range,
Size,
Price,
Type, (CPH, APH etc)
Water Load,
etc.

So fire away, give us all your ideas.




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Postby Rook on Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:35 pm

Range: as much as possible.

Size: Only as big as it needs to be.

Price: irrelevant.

Type: CPS/CAPS (that's just "CAP" with an "S" for "System tacked on).

Water Load: (I'm assuming this means output) Medium (in the ballpark range of 10x).

I'm sure some of you are thinking "What? Medium? Are you kidding?" No. I'm not. Massive blasts of water are ineffective, and it has been proved that medium streams go farther. The gun should not be designed to push too much water out. So, I think it should be made of 1/2" PVC. This means more pressure.

Hmm...this could get interesting...
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Postby WaterWolf on Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:49 pm

Actually, by "water load" I meant how much water it can carry. 10x would be the output.
Personally, I'd lean away from CAP systems, but I think a CPH would be a good possibility.
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Postby Rook on Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:21 pm

Oh. Capacity? It should be alterable, depending on the user. My backpack design for my homemade-in-progress is two of the Advanced Quick-Fill Bottles strapped together. Then, I have simply linked them using a T-Joint and 1/2" PVC. The PVC fits in the lip of the bottle perfectly.
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Postby SilentGuy on Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:06 am

Priorities, in order:
Size
Range

That's essentially it. I went into way more detail with battle-practicality and all at SSC. But I have a splitting headache now...
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Postby bill on Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:58 am

To make anything decent with a trigger a nice body you need a 3d printer. Or if you don’t want to pay 20,000 you can use one of the services below they take your CAD files and create a physical model you can get it printed in a wide variety of materials. Most places even have an instant quote feature these days where you upload your model and they give you a quote. you can find 100 of places that wil print your stuff these days.

http://www.xpress3d.com/?src=g3dprinting

http://www.dpt-fast.com/?gclid=CKyRnKfvyYoCFRn1gAodZVtcdg

http://www.quickparts.com/index.a....tandard




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Postby WaterWolf on Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:50 pm

No thanks.
Part of the idea of this homemade is that it can be built with easily accessible items, such as PVC and rubber tubbing.
I myself enjoy building them, its like a bigger version of model airplanes and stuff, except these have real use, rather than just sitting on a shelf getting dusty.
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Postby SilentGuy on Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:37 pm

Creating something like that would likely be more expensive and not too much easier than using PVC, wood, music wire, and the like.

But thanks for the information and the links!
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Postby WaterWolf on Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:08 am

Ok, I'm now switching focus onto the actual technology behind the gun.
Throw us all your ideas, wether wild or sane.
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Postby WaterWolf on Sun Mar 04, 2007 2:55 pm

Ok, I've drawn up a base model for us to work on.

I took some of it configuration from Dux's newest homemade.

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Side.

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Top.

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Front.

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All.

The two lower chambers are duel 3"x18" reservoirs.
Above them is a 3"x12" CPH pressure chamber, the 1" nozzel and a 1/2" track-pump.

Give me your opinions and changes to it, I'll add stuff that sounds like a good idea and we'll see how it looks then.
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Postby SilentGuy on Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:49 pm

It won't work--the LRT will want to expand lengthwise. It has to be attached at one end only.

Design concepts are rarely the same as the versions that actually get built.
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Postby WaterWolf on Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:45 pm

I've drawn up a V0.2 design with the appropriate changes from suggestions that I received on this forum and others.

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The reservoirs are slightly longer and the threaded cap has been reduced in size.
I've rearranged the trigger in accordance with your suggestions.
The pump is now a standard type.
You can now see the internals of the CPS PC.
I hadn't said anything on my reply with the first design, but I had been going to leave the PC unglued for exactly the reasons that were later stated.
This PC is also not glued in and can be taken apart to access the LRT.

Keep up the replies, the Silver-Bullet is taking shape.
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Postby SilentGuy on Sun Mar 04, 2007 11:09 pm

Not bad. Other than turning the PC around, which won't help too much anyway, this design seems okay if you're looking for an underslung style. Seems a lot like the HydroBlitz in that sense.
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Postby WaterWolf on Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:25 am

Ok, Version 0.3 coming at ya.

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Better flow with a more compact and lighter design.

You night-owls can toss some more ideas at me, but its nearly midnight here and I've got to get to bed.

I'll check up on this in the morning.




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