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Bad Posting Habits - A Guide on what NOT to do here

Postby isoaker on Wed May 04, 2005 1:21 pm

For those newer to the world of online message board posting, here's a quick guide on things to refrain from doing or avoid altogether. An approximate relative annoyance level (1-10; 1 being slightly annoying to 10 being highly flammable i.e. flamebait) is given alongside negative items.

If some felt I missed some things, please add them in below for consideration.

* Poor spelling/grammar
(annoyance level: 1 to 8): this one is variable since the level of poor grammar and spelling is also quite variable. Simply put, if others have a tough time understanding what you're saying, your post becomes useless.

* Short posts lacking useful information
(annoyance level: 2 to 9): while there are times when short replies are permissible (e.g. offering "Congrats" to someone who won something), in the end, this is a forum, not a chatroom.

* Lack of capitalization and punctuation and/or USING ALLCAPS
(annoyance level: 1 to 8): similar to poor spelling and grammar. We don't over enforce grammar and spelling here, but again, if a post gets too illegible, it may just end up considered as spam and wiped. Capitalized words are often considered 'shouting' online. An entire post done in all caps makes it appear that that member is just yelling out their words and not taken favourably.

* Overuse of smileys
(annoyance level: 5 to 10): depending on how many smileys are used and how often a particular members chooses to use them, others find it very pointless/childish to use extraneous amounts of smileys. Smileys are provided to help convey emotion with the words and aren't meant for pushing up just for the sake of adding in a bunch of random graphics. Posts containing almost nothing more than smileys are considered spam.

* Multiple-postings in a short span of time
(annoyance level: 6 to 10): Putting up a reply when you're the last one to post in a thread is often frowned upon unless you happen to bring a LOT of new information/ideas into a thread. Multiple short posts in a short amount of time is considered spam. All members have access to the 'Edit' button. 'Edit' your posts if you forgot to say something instead of pushing up a series of posts in the same thread.

* l337/LEET/Elite-speak
(annoyance level: 6 to 10): The occasional 'l337' word is forgivable, especially if used as part of a joke or humourous point. However, whole posts/threads containing large numbers of abbreviations and internet slang makes for poor legibility and serves no real purpose on this discussion board. As with spelling, grammar, and punctutation, if a post is felt too hard to understand due to the large amounts of abbreviations and 'leet' terms, it may be deleted.

* Real name use
(annoyance level: 7 to 10): if you happen to know another member and choose to use their real name on the board without their consent, this often leads to confrontations and a lot of flaming. As this board is publically viewable, no personal information should be posted anywhere in the forums. Breach of someone else's confidentiality is a bannable offense.

* Posting in the wrong forum
(annoyance level: 2 to 6): this set of forums is divide into various general-topics. Sometimes it can be hard to decide which forum a particular topic deserves, but some threads are definitely more obvious to categorize than others. The forums are sorted to keep similar topics together. It also reduced the likelihood of double-threads since similar threads are grouped.

* Posting an already existing topic
(annoyance level: 2 to 9): this can be forgiveable if the previous thread is ancient and not easily viewable, but if a thread on the same topic appears within the same screen, it shows that a member hadn't taken the time to see if something was already being discussed. Annoyance level increases depending on how frequently a member makes such repetitive/duplicative threads.

More to be added...

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Postby Soaker Master on Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:10 pm

Thanks isoaker!I am glad that I make MOST of my letters legible so far.
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Postby m15399 on Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:44 pm

I have a few...

Posting in dead topics. If no one has posted in a topic for more than a month, or the discussion is obviously over, don't post in it unless you have something new and important to say!!!

This last week people have begun replying to 2 month old topics with "I agree." or "Cool." Normally, I'm not a big fan of strict forum rules, but now it's getting on my nerves to see that half of the new posts are revivals of topics with no new ideas.

Here's another one that won't necessarily get you flamed, but everyone will like you better if you follow this rule:
Don't post unless you have something to say. Don't post a 1 liner that says "Huh?" Put some content in those posts! If you like something about what the last person posted, don't just say "Awesome job.", say what you liked about it, or ask a question! Do something to give your post MEANING.

Sorry, just some of my pet peaves.

Edit: I'm not saying I'm perfect, but look at my join date. Look at the number of posts I have. At the moment I have 83. On average, .75 posts a day. I'm not saying your average should be that low, but if you're getting 15-20 posts a day and you joined a week ago, you need to look at some of your posts and see how many of them actually added to the discussion.




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Postby ZOCCOZ on Thu Feb 02, 2006 4:45 am

I'm a liberal speller, so I'm guilty of that crime. But I would say that people still know what I am talking about, so I'm not going to loose slep over it. As for the other habits I have only done some of them once or twice out of mistake(doubleposts, wrong forum and used Caps on tittles.)

My only complaint that rubbs me the wrong way in forums lately is that self-rightous attitude where any negative or citical opinion is attempted to be supressed by "I can't hear it anymore" or "get over it" statements. If the arguments/opinions presented do not violate board guidelines, it prity much should be anything goes. If people don't like freedom of speech, they can suck on it and post at some other forum sponsored by Disney.
Thats prity much just all I want to add.
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Postby Adrian on Tue May 23, 2006 2:32 pm

Ok y'all, we haven't seen a really good Dr. House impersonation in a while and I'd really hate to bring him back, so I'm just gonna drop a quick note here on some things I've observed recently.

Not every thread requires a response. While this is somewhat acceptable with the newer topics, jacking up your post count by posting your opinion on everything that's happened in the last 2 weeks makes it awful hard for people (especially moderators and those who don't visit the board every 8 hours) to keep up with everything that needs keeping up on. This gets especially annoying when three-quarters of the new posts consist of less than a line of text.

As an add-in to the above, if your post-count is climbing out of the bottom third of double digits or higher and you've been here less than a week, please take a mental step back and evaluate for all the reasons listed above.

We all know that powerful guns are dead. We all know complaining about it to Hasbro will not do any good. Thus, as Duxburian has stated on many occasions, we have a couple options (let's see if I remember them all). Do nothing, mod, or start making your own guns. The death of CPS has been discussed numerous times in the past - if you feel the need to tell us all about it, please find one of the older topics. This isn't the only topic, it's an example.

These aren't hard-and-fast forum rules that will get you banned on a moment's notice. It's polite behavior. It's not targeted at specific members, just an update and a bump for this excellent topic since I'm guessing a lot of the newer members haven't gotten a chance to look at it.

With any lucky, Dr. House and his snarky comments can continue to lurk in the background...

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Postby Adrian on Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:53 pm

Time for this topic to get a bump-up so everyone can see it. This is not targetted at any specific individual, examples are generic. To recap:

Don't post more than once in a row, unless the thread calls for it (music, movies, etc.) The edit button is there for a reason, you won't get an electrical shock through your mouse for using it. If you forgot to add something, click edit and voila! It's like stepping back in time.

Not every topic requires a post. If it's not dead, not merely dead, but clearly and sincerely dead, there's probably a reason. Not to discourage people from adding their (valuable) input to old topics, but agreeing with something that happened last year it doesn't need a "Me too" or "+1."

Single line or barely double line posts are frowned upon, unless where expected (movies, music, etc.) or where necessary. Basically, we don't want the forum used as a chat service.

Spelling and grammar exist to make communication among homo sapiens easier. Not only that, but one looks more intelligent when they're more articulate. Typos are ok, disregarding the whole language is not.

More smilies do not help us divine your feelings better. They mainly exist to provide a way to communicate humor or to (IMO) soften what would otherwise sound (but not mean) stuck-up or argumentative.

The powerful guns are dead. We've ridden this horse as far as is reasonable to do so. 'Lessen you're a Hasbro exec with some new intel for us, a new post is not required. Petitions, boycotts, buycotts, letter-writing campaigns, rants, and other sundry displays of vitrol are not going to change things.

Age and location posting are not allowed. There are *bad* people out there. They congregate around kids' areas. Not only that, but there are people nearly just as bad who pretend to be innocent, yet alluring children specifically for the purpose of jailing the (sometimes innocent) people they suck into their event horizon. They too congregate around kids' areas. They all fall under the broad category of "critters" (not used whimsically). Given that this known element exists, we don't allow the posting of ages or locations (or unreasonable requests for such information). If you're a critter, or a critter-hunter that thinks the end justifies the means, your stay here's gonna be powerful short, 'cause we're gonna err on the side of caution. On a related note, the mods here read everything. Keep that in mind, along with the fact that this website does have an age regulation.

We don't ask much. Honestly. Just decent, intelligent behavior, something that most everyone measures up to. If you ever have any questions, do not hesitate to contact any of the moderators (Black Six, Duxburian, myself,) or the man upstairs: Isoaker. Just try and you'll get along fine.

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Postby DX on Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:07 pm

Might I remind the general public that n00bish behavior is more than just a little annoying? Before you do any of it, think of how many times we mods have had to deal with it. The handful of times this week doesn't compare to years of this same stuff.

What I don't understand is why so many new members have to be n00bs. Just because you are new doesn't mean that you have to post one liners, reveal your personal information, and spell everything wrong. When I was a new member, I wasn't like that. Intelligent [or at least semi-intelligent] discussion really isn't hard.
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Postby NiborDude on Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:43 pm

Bad Posting Habit: Veteran members acting like they're better than everyone else. I hate posts like that. It just degrades the newer members and discourages them from ever coming back.
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Postby Adrian on Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:37 am

I don't know if this was a direct response to what was posted here or commentary on another post, but no one's claiming to be better than anyone else. All we're doing is asking that people abide by A.The rules set here and B.Common sense posting standards.

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Postby XP20Warrior on Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:05 pm

I stand by Adrian's suggestions and statements. We are merely just stating rules in the common good for the community.

Wait, was that too diplomatic? :p
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Postby Ben on Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:02 pm

NiborDude wrote:Bad Posting Habit: Veteran members acting like they're better than everyone else. I hate posts like that. It just degrades the newer members and discourages them from ever coming back.

Like Adrian, I'm assuming this has to do with this thread. No one's being superior here. Really. These rules keep the bad from happening.

Could what you just have posted be construed to be exactly what you described? In fact, at your forum you wouldn't even allow these people. Isn't that what you described, a superiorist attitude? There's something to think about. :goofy:
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Postby wetmonkey442 on Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:34 pm

Hmm...I thought we were over this "elitist SM" thing.

On topic: I've noticed a trend in members with bad posting habits. They usually don't stay around for very long. Thus, I take the natural approach and just ignore them. People with good posting habits generally make good members, and good members usually stay around for awhile. It's actually quite interesting to see how a group of members is weeded through over a period of time until only good, contributing members remain.
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Postby Rook on Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:26 pm

iSoaker has mentioned that the Moderators, KeyMembers, etc. don't act better then everyone else. And I agree. Compared to some non-soaker forums that I've been to, they're actually quite humble. :D

I wasn't too much of a n00b when I showed up, either (however, my first post was in the wrong board :D) . But Dux is right. N00bism needs to stop. Using Forums as chatrooms, 1337, AYB... This is a subject that I'm likely to take too far, so I'll stop now. :p




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Postby DX on Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:50 pm

Hmm...I thought we were over this "elitist SM" thing.


Yeah...so knock it off everyone who it involves. That's a mod warning. Snide remarks belong in PMs, if anywhere at all.

In fact, at your forum you wouldn't even allow these people.


Pre-banning was ended by popular vote many months ago...and our focus is not on the people, but the behavior.

This is the stupidest argument ever, look back at some really old topics/posts to find out why no people who brandish the word "elitist" as a weapon are actually innocent themselves. No one.

I don't throw barbs at any community anymore, so the reciprocal is expected at the very least. I will say no more on this subject in public, and anymore talk of it in public will be deleted no questions asked.
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Postby NiborDude on Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:36 pm

No, it had nothing to do with the thread. I just hate posts that say "I know more, I am older, I am wiser, you're a noob"
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